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Maura
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi....I'm a first time chatter!

Our Bruno is coming up to 10 months old and aside from exertion of energy dodging me when I try to get the ball off him (could go on and on!) I am only walking him 1 - 2 miles per day....as recommended.

However, I personally run as my exercise and I have been told that Briards are great running companions.

When should I start taking Bruno on longer walks and start him running with me, usually 4 - 7 miles?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura - congratulations on your wooly bundle and glad the training is going well!

I can only speak from personal experience - I take bo for a *long* walk once a week and 2 short walks (about 30 mins each) twice a day.

I found it impossible to jog with Bo as being a herding dog, he wanted to stop me running off which he did by doing by eye level tigger bounces expressing his disgust at the very idea!

As you know, often a dogs walk is a time to get sniffs, lay their scent and explore at their own pace. Running can interupt this and make them stressy as I found with bo!

Maybe 5 / 10 mins running and walking in turn might be worth a try, but I gave up with sir and did the two apart.

You may well get on better, and others here will know far more than me but welcome to the FBC and all the lovely people and their owners! xx

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura. Welcome to the FBC. My advice is that you shouldn't really be walking a 10 month old puppy that far anyway as you have to think about their hips. Puppies of this age should only be walked a very short distance as they are a big dog and big dogs need their hips to develop, so little and often is best at this stage. You certainly should not be walking him 1 to 2 miles every day it is far too long a distance at his age. Once they get over a year old then you can start building up their stamina slowly. I know this sounds quite harsh and I apologise if it does but I am only trying to give you sound advice. Anyway hope this helps. Debbie and the two hairy monsters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura and Welcome to the FBC

I would just like to say I agree with Deborah, we were told the same when we had Amber, short walks 2 or 3 times a day until they are 12 months old then slowly increase the length of your walks.

Hope to hear a lots more about Bruno. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree with the others on not walking your puppy to far at his present age.However once he is older you should not have a problem on taking him running with you.I would start training him to run at your side (for small distances only at first) because ours not being trained in this way tend to run in front of your legs as they think the aim of the game is to trip you up. I know of people who ride a bike and let there Briard run at there side so you running should not be a problem.Good luck with Bruno Keep us informed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura and Bruno
warm welcome to the FBC Very Happy
not experienced on running the distances you do(you must be super fit Very Happy )but in time you will train your Bruno to do almost anything Wink
the Briards just love your company
so that is your great asset Very Happy
all the best keep us posted we all love news and pictures Wink Very Happy Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi
I think at this age mental stimulation and actual training is more important than very long walks. An occasional long work on the flat at 10 months might not cause problems but I really do mean occasionally. It is important to exercise a Briard were they will meet and interact with other sound dogs. One danger of jogging with a young dog is that it doesn't interact in the normal way with other dogs and if you don't slow down and attend to what your dog is doing, which most runners dont, it can cause problems. Many dogs don't like dogs running full pelt at them and can either frighten them or prompt a protective or aggressive attitude to the joggers dog.
If you are going to run with your dog I would wait until it is 12 months old. I would suggest that you have its hip scored first so you know how sound its construction is. Then start to introduce your dog to short runs which aren't crucial to your own fitness programme and it wont matter if you need to stop or slow down approaching other dogs and attend to the dog. If you build up the distances slowly your Briard should cope well, but you do need to continue to have seperate walks or join a training club to ensure your dog interacts with other dogs. This is just as important when they are teenagers as it is when they are puppies.
Be warned my first Briard use to jog with me many moons ago when I was younger and fitter, like many Briards she loved to have a nip of your bum or leg to keep you on track or keep control of you! So I hope you dont get too many bruises.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks to you all for taking the time and genuine interest to point me in the right direction.

This really is an amazing Briard site.

I have started the walking about a month ago so I will certainly stop immediately for the immediate future.

The jogging is not a big deal but I love spending time with Bruno and obviously if he could join me in the future, all the better.

Honestly I had not heard of 'scoring' his hips so that is absolutely that appointment will be made this week. Embarassed

Thanks again

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

When I first tried running with my briard, Ivy, I was surprised when she would leap up constantly and nip my elbow. I eventually realised she was trying to prevent me from running away. To stop this herding instinct, I tried running with her on the lead. This helped her to understand that we would not get separated. I also introduced the word "Running!" when I began to run and whenever she ran alongside me without leaping up I peppered her with compliments ("Good running, Ivy!" "Very good running!" etc.) I started with five minute spells and worked my way up to around fifteen minutes. Once she could handle that fine I then removed the lead and we haven't looked back! Briards are highly intelligent and very good listeners so once they understand what you want of them they seem to enjoy a challenge. Even though she could run ten times faster than me, she keeps by my side.

With regards to the comments made by Liz (Touslefell) I would pay *very* close attention to this advice. My neighbour has a dog Ivy's age and right from the get-go he would accompany his owner on long runs. Although he's probably very fulfilled in terms of releasing energy, he's not been socialised properly and now for some reason constantly gets attacked by even the most placid of dogs. It doesn't help that he hurt his leg on a run and couldn't go out for months and months. I don't mean to discourage you from running, but to encourage you to also do regular walking regularly.

One other thought: Someone once told me a good general guide is to walk a puppy for 5 minutes times its age in months. So, at 3 months old a puppy could walk for 15 minutes a day; at 6 months 30 minutes; at 9 months 45 minutes and so on until their bones have finished growing.

Hope this helps and welcome to the Friendly Briard Club!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura. I know you are keen to get his hips scored but you will not be able to do this until he reaches 12 months old, so I would wait another couple of months. There are also a couple of ways you can do this. Your vet, if you have it done with them, will probably insist on general anaesthetic whilst they X-ray his hips but there are a couple of radiographers down south who x-ray whilst just under sedation. If you want more details could you private message me. Hope this helps. Debbie and the two hairy monsters.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Years ago my sister had a cocker spaniel and her husband insisted on taking the dog running with him, at 3 years of age he had hip dysplacia and her husband was so upset. Just be careful they are so precious to us.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Maura,

Welcome to the FBC. I take Georgie running with me when I go. She is 2yrs 5 mths and absolutely loves it. She is very busy in her brain so I need to give her lots of excercise. I have to say when I first ran with her (about a year ago) she was crazy - jumping up and down like Tigger trying to nip at me but a few well timed 'NO' commands and she is now much calmer and runs very well. I also do agility with her so she has to run alongside me for that. I don't go too far, only about 4km, I'm not fit enough to run any further!

I'm sure Bruno would love to run with you when he is a little older and his bones have developed correctly.

Rose & Georgie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to the site Maura and congratulations on owning a beautiful briard. The guys above have all given you spot on advice. Even my smaller Serra gets carried away if we ever run together (for a few strides!) and tries to run and curl herself in front of me at the same time, major tripping hazard (oh, and barks her head off!) So I wish you well in your training of a future running partner and for the meantime enjoy your lovely walks together. Very Happy

PS I was given the same advice as Emme from Lola's breeder ... 15min walk for a 3month puppy, 30mins for 6month old, etc,.
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