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Blondestreak
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all my name is Christine and I am getting my first Briard in two weeks so would love any advise you could give me please from settling the pup to just about anything Smile many thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Christine & welcome. How exciting for you. Sadly I have never had one from a pup, but have owned 2 & fostered one. First of all you need to be ready to post some pictures, as we will all want to see him/her. I will tell you how I do it nearer the time. The main thing is, enjoy your pup & hopefully you won't have any problems other than puppy related Wink ( chewing shoes/pooping where shouldn't etc Smile )
I am sure others will give you some good puppy advice.
Don't be offended if no-one answers quickly, it has been quiet of late, as most go on facecloth, but some are returning to the old method of coming on here Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi, Welcome and well done for choosing such a fantastic breed. We have had two from 8 weeks and one as an adult. Everyone will tell you that they are all different and so are owners but I would say from our experience that what has been good has been socialising with the best sorts of other owners and dogs, especially puppies, being positive and encouraging with the puppies and skilful in not letting them repeat things that might turn into bad habits. They do have long memories for bad experiences, which inevitably will sometimes occur, so make sure to revisit those very positively. They also have long memories for good experiences, and remember old friends, canine and human, from years back. This is what I would aim for were we to have another puppy, we've made loads of mistakes, which hopefully you won't, but even then all has not been lost. I've found Briard owners really kind and helpful and having got in deep trouble with our current dog (letting her have far too much of the wrong kind of freedom and then finding a very headstrong young dog very hard to deal with calmly) I've found really good help and she is now turning into the dog that I am sure she should have been (aged 5 now) - great fun, full of life and energy, but very responsive to us. Good luck. Amanda

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you so much for replying to me and I have tried to join the fb pages for Briards last week but not been added yet.

I am looking forward to getting the pup but scared as well as its been such a long time since having a pup and if i could have got a rescue adult i would have as I have always had rescue dogs.

So hoping with all your help and encouragement we will be ok lol if someone could guide me through posting pictures i would be happy to post when she arrives with us which is hopefully the week ending the 17th Nov.

Many thanks for the advise and the warm welcome Very Happy i look forward to seeing pictures of everyone's Briard's

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

These were mine. Now sadly gone.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Christine Welcome to the wonderful world of Briards. I have had 4 Briard puppies, but still by no means an expert, as Amanda says in her post they are all different, and you tend to learn as you go. You may have already been advised that Briards are highly intelligent and need a firm hand as they can run rings round you. I would agree with this,,, but they are also sensitive little souls and can be easily upset. I know this is a bit of a contradiction,, but as you get to know your own dog - you will get the right balance. Don't worry just enjoy her, you have happy times ahead!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello. I got my darling Zizou at 6 months old. I agree with the others: maximum exposure to many different kinds of dogs etc at a manageable rate for the pup: so, the puppy can grow used to things and become confident around them. Look after those growing bones by limiting the exercise appropriately until they are adults. As for chewing? Swap things and encourage them to chew stuff designed for chewing. Don't leave the dog alone too long (they hate it.) Oh! And while you are waiting for them to be able to tire themselves with the long walks etc. when older, games that tire the mind are good instead. I used to train him to obey commands indoors or in the garden all the time. Scent games are good too. And, handle the pup "obsessively" to get them used to being touched and groomed.

Training all my dogs has been easy because they are into food. Small treats have worked wonders. If for some reason your pup is not a foodie, squeaky balls can be good. They seem to love a Kong tennis ball, which is designed not to wreck the teeth like normal tennis balls. A Kong cone lined with cheese out of a tube and filled with treats is another useful tool to amuse and distract them. Much of the information can be found relating to dogs in general. I've learned much from looking at the other herders as well as specifically Briards. And, if you can go out on regular walks with all kinds of breeds, you will pick up loads of tips from experienced dog owners as you go. Zizou learned his manners from two elderly Golden Retreiver females. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Patricia's post reminds me of one thing more. Is your pup to be a girl or a boy? We have only had three Briards, two boys and a girl, and there does seem from that limited sample to be quite a difference in temperament between the sexes. Also possibly the colour. The boys (one black and one a muddy fawn) have been more of an obvious handful but actually our current girl (fawn/red head) has proved the trickiest of all because she is hyper sensitive and very strong willed, which makes her a lovely family member but a challenge to manage around other dogs, and indeed humans who send out the wrong messages to her mind. The boys were sensitive too but did take correction on the chin, as it were! I found like Patricia that walking them with older dogs to teach them manners worked very well. With Dinah, though, it hasn't worked. My wonderful trainer, who helps me hugely, says that she is a very strong bitch - which makes me feel better because of course one thinks all doggy problems are your own fault, which of course many are, but Dinah certainly does not accept correction from another dog. She will modify her behaviour if need be - and also work out another way to get her own way! We did our absolute best to socialise her well as a pup, and I do often agonise that we could have done more, which is why I would say that you cannot do too much of the right kind of socialising in those key early weeks and months. A Briard breeder commented to me quite recently that novice Briard owners are often fooled by what seem to be perfect puppies, as was Dinah! But those early days are really really key to how the dog develops later. Hope I haven't worried you. I don't mean to because after some pretty mighty issues with Dinah I found myself saying the other day to a friend, who had a litter of very perfect Labradors, 'I know you think me mad,' (she has dog walked with me often, her Lab trotting quietly beside us, greeting all and sundry cheerfully and calmly - while Dinah had in the early days been miles off hurtling through the bushes, later constrained by a long lead, towing me behind, always having to detour away from those friendly Labrador meets and greets), 'but I still don't want any breed other than a Briard, I just wish I was better at training them'!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That is a very good point from Amanda. I only know how to raise a male Briard. I've worked with a female Rottweiler, using the same training I gave Zizou, but she was an adult, who had been neglected, thus, I think she was just glad somebody cared. I now have a female Dogue de Bordeaux from a similar background as the Rottweiller, though she is more mindful than Zizou for certain. On talking to people, who know Briards, I've heard it said the female Briard can also be more mindful than the male.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to the world of Briards. You must have your new puppy by now and hopefully he/she has proven to be a wonderful new member of the family.

We have had 3 Briards from a puppy: Norbert was our first and was almost totally house trained within 5 days. And when he wanted to go out for the toilet, he would grab my arm/ hand in his mouth and lead me to the back door. Norbert’s groomer described him as being the most laid-back dog she had ever come across.

Louis, who is now 3 years old, took longer to house train and if you told him off, he knew how to get his own back. Once, after a telling off, he peed 20 times in an hour on the kitchen floor. I was convinced he was also sticking his tongue out at me! He walks to the kitchen door, turn and give us the “evil eye” when he wants to go out.

Maxime, our latest puppy, is now 5 months old, never pooed in the house after day 2 but took longer for wees. He has not quite refined his technique as a run to the kitchen can either be “let me out, I want a pee” or “got you up, how about a game”!

Despite their quirks, the only circumstance that we would not have a Briard would be when we are both in bath-chairs!

As Amanda said, they do have long memories. When Norbert was 8 months old, we took him to our house in France for a holiday. He spotted a cat on one of his walks round the village and went to say “hello”. The cat responded by trying to claw his eyes out. Thereafter, whenever we were staying in the village, he would remember exactly the spot where the “demon” cat attacked him and would be on high alert.

All or boys are great car travellers - essential when they are in the car for almost 24 hours on our trips to our house in France. Not sure if it is Briard trait or because their first car trip was at 8 weeks old and they had to endure a 3 hour trip from Gilcoru in South Wales to Surrey. But we also made it a habit to take all the boys in the car at least 3 times a week, whether short or long journeys.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to the world of Briards. You must have your new puppy by now and hopefully he/she has proven to be a wonderful new member of the family.

We have had 3 Briards from a puppy: Norbert was our first and was almost totally house trained within 5 days. And when he wanted to go out for the toilet, he would grab my arm/ hand in his mouth and lead me to the back door. Norbert’s groomer described him as being the most laid-back dog she had ever come across.

Louis, who is now 3 years old, took longer to house train and if you told him off, he knew how to get his own back. Once, after a telling off, he peed 20 times in an hour on the kitchen floor. I was convinced he was also sticking his tongue out at me! He walks to the kitchen door, turn and give us the “evil eye” when he wants to go out.

Maxime, our latest puppy, is now 5 months old, never pooed in the house after day 2 but took longer for wees. He has not quite refined his technique as a run to the kitchen can either be “let me out, I want a pee” or “got you up, how about a game”!

Despite their quirks, the only circumstance that we would not have a Briard would be when we are both in bath-chairs!

As Amanda said, they do have long memories. When Norbert was 8 months old, we took him to our house in France for a holiday. He spotted a cat on one of his walks round the village and went to say “hello”. The cat responded by trying to claw his eyes out. Thereafter, whenever we were staying in the village, he would remember exactly the spot where the “demon” cat attacked him and would be on high alert.

All or boys are great car travellers - essential when they are in the car for almost 24 hours on our trips to our house in France. Not sure if it is Briard trait or because their first car trip was at 8 weeks old and they had to endure a 3 hour trip from Gilcoru in South Wales to Surrey. But we also made it a habit to take all the boys in the car at least 3 times a week, whether short or long journeys.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

David T wrote:
a 3 hour trip from Gilcoru in South Wales to Surrey. But we also made it a habit to take all the boys in the car at least 3 times a week, whether short or long journeys.


Hello David, this is the exact same trip Zizou took at 6 months, when we got him. He just slept on my knee all the way home. Like you, we followed up with regular outings, and for the first two or three months, I always sat in the back with him. We were able to take him all the way up to Manchester within weeks of getting him, and he did great.

My current rescue dog had never been in a car before, but I feel, Zizou's calming presence made it easy for her to adjust.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

LOvely to hear about Norbert, Louis and Maxime - especially Norbert, our Brion's son!!! Once he had settled in to his new home with us Brion was pretty chilled too. Wish I'd known him as a puppy. He'd hardly ever been in a car when we collected him from Wales for his four hour journey, aged 3 1/2, and indeed it took quite a time to get him in at all in the first place, but he came to absolutely love it, indeed would jump in if ever he could. Cars should be fun places for them because they lead to fun things. Amanda

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to the wonderful world of Briards. You’ll have lots of fun with your new edition they love to be included in everything. My advice would be start as you mean to go on as they are very smart as has been said. Firm but fair handling and if you give a command make sure they do as requested as given an inch they will take a yard in the cutest way. Enjoy your new puppy.

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